Dashboard Result Display - Final Value Distribution

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Ryan Catling

• August 27, 2019 07:06

G'day,

With my current version the Dashboard is unable to display results using the 'Result Display' box for values that have been taken from a submodel using Final Value distribution. Weirdly enough the Final Value Distribution results can be graphed using a 'Distribution Result' graph, but I can't display those same values in the 'Result Display' boxes.

My current workaround, which is to specifically output each individual 'Statistic' for each type of information I'm tracking. This will result in over 100 submodel outputs... It's doing my head in, and it's also not good from a future functionality perspective either.

I was just wondering if this is something that's going to be fixed soon? Given the 'final value distributions' can already be plotted ina distribution graph, I can't imagine it would be hard to add it to the 'result display' boxes on the dashboard.

Cheers

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  Jason

  • August 29, 2019 00:01

  Ryan,

  Thank you for posting in the Forum! This is a good question. If I understand you correctly, you want to show a statistic from a probability distribution output coming out of a submodel, correct? If this is the case, please consider selecting the option "Display Monte Carlo Result" in the properties of the Result Display as shown in the screen capture below. This option allows you to connect to the Distribution Result that you use to reference the distribution output from the submodel.

  

  Please let me know if this helps.

  -Jason

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  Ryan Catling

  • August 29, 2019 00:34

  No Good sorry Jason,

  I already have the 'Display Monte Carlo Result' selected. Here's a screenshot showing the dashboard with the setting I have for the results display box, next to a plot of the exact results I'm trying to display. Unfortunately after I run the model, the results box stays blank. (or maybe not, I've tried adding the image three times but nothing's appearing in the box)

   

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  David Esh

  • August 29, 2019 13:35

  Hi Ryan - A couple of options, both of these are a pain if you have a lot of output distributions:

  1) Create a result for your submodel that is a "Final Value" instead of a distribution, then you can link those to your dashboard result box.

  2) Maintain your output from your submodel as a distribution but then create expressions outside the submodel using:

  PDF_Value(SubModel1.Stochastic1, 0.5) 

  where SubModel1.Stochastic1 is your output distribution on your submodel and the 0.5 (or any value from 0 to 1) is the probability value of the distribution that you want.  You can also use PDF_mean if you want the mean result.

  Regards,

  Dave

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  Ryan Catling

  • August 29, 2019 21:22

  Thank you for you're contribution Dave

  I wasn't aware of method two you've suggested there but unfortunately it's just as tedious as the first method (which is my current workaround)

  You're right, both of these are a massive pain when there's a lot of output distributions, which is why my original question still stands.. Is this being fixed in an upcoming version?

  I would rather wait until I can set up the model properly.. instead of creating 100 different expressions or submodel outputs as a workaround. (I'm trying to create something that can be used for years, and by various people well after I've left the organisation)

  Regards,

   Ryan

   

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  Jason

  • August 30, 2019 13:46

  Sorry guys but I'm still not completely understanding what you are doing. I built a simple model that has a probabilistic submodel with a distribution output then connect that to a result distribution and now when I go to the dashboard I am able to select the statistic of choice so I'm not understanding what the problem is. Ryan, do you mind starting a support ticket so I can see more about your particular model? Thanks for your patience.

  -Jason

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  Jason

  • September 04, 2019 22:43

  Ryan,

  Thank you for sending me the model over through our support system. Now that I've taken a look at your model, I can see what you mean. I will add this feature request to our list of development ideas because it seems like a reasonable thing to have. Another workaround for you might be to have 2 dashboards. Put one dashboard inside the submodel so you can reference the statistics the way you want to then add a button to the dashboard on the outside so you can quickly navigate from one to the other seamlessly. It would be ideal to have all this information on a single dashboard but I'm afraid it just isn't possible unless you use the workarounds that Dave mentioned above. I don't like the idea of referencing your distribution output in a stochastic though, because that requires the main model also run for multiple realizations. 

  What do you think of the idea of having a second dashboard inside to report the statistical outputs?

  -Jason

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  Ryan Catling

  • September 05, 2019 00:07

  Hi Jason,

  When we had previously discussed this months ago you suggested the idea of having two dashboards with one inside the submodel. I didn't like the idea at the time because having to maneuver between dashboards would be too much hassle. Both for other users who have no Goldsim knowledge who need to use the model, as well as for quickly viewing results when running the model dozens of times, tweaking inputs to view their impact on results.

  But at the time you didn't mention a Button!! (and I didn't know such a thing existed - another reason I should do some proper training in this)

  I've found the button feature, I can add one on each display for a one click swap between dashboards. It's not perfect but at this stage it's a hell-of-a-lot easier than the workarounds when I want to build complex display tables with tons of results.

  I'll build a detailed results display table in the submodel and link the two together with buttons for now. At least until Goldsim fixes it so I can display them all on the one outer board.

   

  Thanks

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  Jason

  • September 05, 2019 00:28

  Oh yes, I'm sorry I never explained that before. Yes, you can add buttons for navigation. In fact, some people add buttons to look like tabs so the switch between dashboards isn't even noticeable to the end user. For a tutorial on how to make these kinds of navigation tabs, please see this article: https://support.goldsim.com/hc/en-us/articles/217910908-Navigation-Tabs-in-the-Dashboard

  I hope you find this helpful!

  Jason

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  Ryan Catling

  • September 05, 2019 00:50

  Cool, I like it!

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